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Pensioners and Prisoners

by tylluanpenry @ Sunday, 04. May, 2008 - 12:29:50

It's not easy growing old these days... families are often fragmented and unable to offer support to elderly relatives, especially if everyone who could offer support is struggling to hold down a full time job and pay the bills.

If they do give up their job in order to care for a relative, the present level of Carer's Allowance is £50 per week - no matter how many relatives you may be caring for! So if you care for elderly parents, you are, in effect, being paid £25 per week for each parent - for 24 hour care, seven days a week. Think of it - there are 168 hours in every week, meaning that even if you care full time for one person, you are paid less than 30p per hour!

If carers were paid the minimum wage for just half the hours in the week, they should be getting over £500 per week! Makes you think, doesn't it? The shameful truth is that if the carers in this country said 'Sod it' tomorrow, the system would crash. This country simply couldn't exist without taking carers for granted.

The media often feature stories of how poorly the elderly are treated in so-called 'care homes' (a misnomer if ever there was one!) and even in hospital. We might want to live longer, but I don't think anyone relishes growing old and frail.

Even pensioners who manage to remain reasonably independent and live in their own homes often struggle to pay bills, particularly the ever rising cost of heating their homes to a decent level. These are people who have usually worked hard, brought up families and now face real poverty.

Now compare their plight with those of prisoners. This article is taken from : http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/05/04/prisoner-s-shocking-revelation-on-life-behind-bars-91466-20858942/

I'll reprint the salient parts here:

Prisoner’s shocking revelation on life behind bars
May 4 2008 by Our Correspondent, Wales On Sunday

Last week, Wales on Sunday revealed how pampered inmates in Cardiff prison can use hi-tech games consoles in their cells and will soon be treated to a brand new £10m medical centre. Now we can reveal more shocking details about life behind bars, contained in a letter from Donal Kelleher – caged for repeatedly stabbing his wife

I AM currently serving a recall sentence where the probation service think they are punishing me but in fact I would rather be in here because of the fantastic conditions.

Foreign national prisoners are offered £3,000 on release to return to their home country but refuse this but rather stop in prison because they have never had it so good.

On the weekend we watch all the latest DVDs in our cells. On D wing, the enhanced wing, there is a full size snooker table as well as pool and table tennis. We can order most things we need from Argos, eg trainers, stereo systems, curtains and quilt covers.

On C wing, the detox wing, they provide methadone and Valium for heroin addicts and hot chocolate at night and they have single cells. Sex offenders have a large fish tank full of tropical fish and they don’t have to work they are well protected from the rest of the prisoners.

The food provided is tested by the governor to make sure it is cooked well and tasty.

You can have plants or flowers as well as fans to keep cool in the cells.

Some prisoners become gym orderlies, this is a very good job where they spend most of the day in the gym where they train themselves and help others. They are paid for doing this.

There are many ways to earn money inside with a wide range of jobs. Listeners who gets (sic) trained by the Samaritans have widescreen TVs, a nice stereo and has a luxury armchair in his cell (sic).

These listeners very rarely get called upon because everybody is so happy in here. This is a much sought-after position.

You can even learn to become a bricklayer or painter and decorator and you get paid at the same time, but many prisoners don’t want this because they have no intention of every working because they prefer to lie on their beds all day watching TV.

This prison is Category B, I have also been to Parc Prison in Bridgend which is Category C. The conditions there are even better. That place is like a health farm.

Many prisoners are on a waiting list to get there and ultimately to Presscoed (sic) or Layhill where they have golf courses and this is considered the dream destination.

These prisons are open category D jails where they are allowed to work, earning £1,100 a month, which they save for their release day.

Sometimes you hear on the news of prisoners escaping from these prisoners (sic) but this is very rare and often by first time prisoners who don’t know the score.

I am so happy here, I’m dreading the day they come to my cell with my release papers.

No wonder the prisons are at an all-time high because most people have a better standard of living in here.

I can’t understand people who are homeless when they could have the life of reily (sic) just by getting into trouble and then staying at her Majesty’s pleasure.

Some prisoners who get 18 day early release don’t really want it and many go out, spend the £180 they are given and then return within the week. Others who are offered tagging turn this option down because they are happy where they are.

Prison is a joke, it certainly isn’t a punishment or a deterrent.

Yours,

DC Kelleher

Makes you think, doesn't it?

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jackfrostjackfrost pro
2008-05-04 @ 12:50

you are right on both matters although there is an arguement for taking responsibility for ones own parents ...but the prison issue is a joke..i have responded to a call where a man has smased a bus shelter and then rang 999, waited for us to turn upo. he told me he was on licence and wanted to go back to prison ...he also said if they dont send me back i will have to kill someone so they do...made my blood run cold!!...his licence was revoked and he went back to prison..

tylluanpenrytylluanpenry pro
2008-05-05 @ 14:31

I think it's right we try and care for family members as much as possible - although that said, most of the work usually falls on just one person. And there are times when it just isn't possible to help, I know. Also I don't think it's fair that carers are treated so shabbily.

It's quite horrible to think someone seriously considers killing just to get back into prison!

EllieGantEllieGant pro
2008-05-04 @ 13:26

The elderly care situation in this country is a scandal, with such little support for carers it is a wonder more of them don't have nervous breakdowns. And the prison situation, by comparison, shows just how crazy society has become with its priorities.

tylluanpenrytylluanpenry pro
2008-05-05 @ 14:33

It seems that the powers-that-be are determined to go on taking carers for granted in this country.

As for the prisons.... well, if the letter was genuine, I'm speechless....:yes:

skip2468skip2468 [Member]
2008-05-04 @ 22:20

The same here. There are queues miles long begging to get back into prison, which they understandably look upon as the best free living anywhere. They want to return to the wonderful free facilities and comforts that are not affordable to the great majority of our law abiding citizens.

This is the sickening truth about the prison situation here.

tylluanpenrytylluanpenry pro
2008-05-05 @ 14:34

I wonder why things have become this way? It seems the wrong way round, somehow :yes:

amaletskaamaletska [Member]
2008-05-05 @ 13:49

Jackfrost and Skip2468, you probably know better, but I remember the situation in the Middle East (ahem, ahem) when the people behind the bars would tell all sorts of lovely-jovely lies to the press just in order to get an extra phone call or some other privilege (or not to have it cancelled, more like). "Ooh, ooh, it's such a wonderful jail, wouldn't want to ever go out" - but just listen to them when they ARE out...

But of course, that's a completely different layout. We tend to complain but living in Europe IS much better than in many, many other countries. If you say there are queues miles long begging to get back into the prison... well, it does say something, doesn't it... As I say, you know better.

Of course, many things in Europe are... erm.. illogical, to put it mildly (I mean the pensioners). Here in Spain they could have been taken a better care of, too. But hey, who am I to change the world... I'll take care of whom I can reach (if they don't mind, of course).

Sorry, I think I am on the gloomy side today. Waiting for the letter from a Peruvian kid who is locked in Thailand and that's no paradise! (This is a Prison Fellowship connection). Anyway, I'd rather stop writing novels in other people's blogs...

tylluanpenrytylluanpenry pro
2008-05-05 @ 14:38

Thanks for raising the interesting point that there may be more to the 'letter from a prisoner' than meets the eye.

Hope your letter from the Peruvian in Thailand reaches you soon! :)

amaletskaamaletska [Member]
2008-05-05 @ 16:02

yeah, "more than meets the eye" is the name of the game. :yes:

And guess what, I have just got the letter from the Thai Peruvian! so I am feeling happier. It is amazing how people in such a difficult situation have such a sense of humour, he even makes me laugh. God's grace, indeed... He seems a nice and well-educated kid, did something stupid, obviously, so he is where he is, but I hope he learns the lesson. Amen

wendlanewendlane pro
2008-05-07 @ 23:46

Really interesting post Ty -yes the situation for elderly people in the UK is appaling most of the time and I do gthink it's a scandal that if you work al your life and buy your own home and are honest and lawa abiding it is taken from you -ev ery penny including your home and any legacy you want to leave your children to pay fro every bit of care if you become ill and go into either rfesidential or nursing homes. I don't believe that prisons should be there to brutalise however they are there to punish wrong doers and shoud not be too comfortable -who the hell is paying for gthe stuff from Argos -food should be basic but nutritious and rooms should be adequate. I have read a lot about terrible prison conditions. what gets me is yes it's great to give prisoners opportunities to work so that they don't re-offend but why don't we get this right before they get to prison? Where is the apprenriceships and gtraining for a trade? Why don't we help addicts before they turn to crime? Why criminalise a drug addict? It is an illness really and we treat them the same as a paedophile or murderer -we need to prioritise and make sure tax payers money goes to those in need (the elderly, carers and poor) I have to say though that surely prison should never be a place you want to return to?

wendlanewendlane pro
2008-05-07 @ 23:47

Sorry for all the typos it's late!

tylluanpenrytylluanpenry pro
2008-05-08 @ 09:47

You've hit the nail on the head - that the problems should be addressed before people get to the stage of going to prison. What we've got now is shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.

What I don't understand is that people who break the rules are treated with more understanding than people who just become ill or old.

anky [Visitor]
http://anyonline007.blogspot.com
2008-05-27 @ 13:18

One should save some amount every month to support his/her old age .As far as supporting parents is concerned i think kids should do it too .Everyone have money but most peoples fail to manage it . you need to make choices where to spend where not to spend

tylluanpenrytylluanpenry pro
2008-05-27 @ 13:49

Thank you for visiting my blog and posting here :)

Part of the problem is that we are taxed so heavily that saving is difficult, and even when we do save, the amount often won't keep pace with inflation.

Carers are paid so little that they're lucky to get by, let alone save anything. It's a huge problem.

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